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Computer, especially programmer, is a practice science (In fact, I am not sure it could be called as science). So, you can learn everything you want, and you can learn very well.

bloor(bloor)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛However, you need to do more practice to be talent enough for your future assignment.

My advice:

1. Since you have the MCSE certificate (although it's not so useful), you'd better start learning VB, SQL, ASP, or any other skills of MS. But be aware, that VB or VC is just a tool, what you need to learn is the concepts of this industry, and the most popular trends. Make sure you understand what a database is, and what you can do with it. So as to the internet.

2. Visit Microsoft's web site, there are lots of helpful information there.

3. Try to find a company where you can do as a programmer. It's really helpful for you.
I assume that you DO want to be a programmer in the future (image what will happen to you if you stay at the same table, facing the monitor, 8 or 10 hours a day, and 5 or 7 days a week).

Rollor is correct, you are just a lillter brother here, so be patient.

BTW, I was a hardware engineer in automatic control field 11 years ago and my major in university is not CS. I make up my mind to become a software engineer (for me, it's the only thing I am interested in). And I have worked with Micro Assemble, C/C++, VB, PB, Delphi, SQL, Oracle, Informix and Sybase, under Win NT and Unix. Now I am working in Java under Linux. And, I can say that I was a good programmer/anlyst in the past, and still as I. What I want to say is, you can be any one if you really want, and only if you really want.

GOOD LUCK!更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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Last Updated: 2001-3-15
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  • 枫下拾英 / 心情随笔 / 请了解情况的前辈给指条路吧，谢谢。 -strong(老粗); 2001-3-14 {1226} (#33319@0)
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛把论坛里的贴子大概都看了，感觉好象是只有软件开发好找工作，就是其他行业也要做得很深才行（成功者大都有XX年的经验，硕士博士什么的）。那象我这样的适合去吗？能生存吗？

    我的情况是：98年计算机应用学士，有MCSE和CCNA证书，从事系统集成工作。但由于大学时的错误让我现在
    基本不会编程（惭愧，平时作业也总是改别人的）。至于英语我正好和大多数相反，阅读和写作不成，口语和听力还可以（能看懂的基本都能听懂）。

    我是个不甘寂寞，喜欢到处走的人。我之所以选择系统集成工作也是因为可以到处出差。今年年初开始想移民加拿大，每次一想到未知的国外生活就让我兴奋不已，看这墙上的世界地图也让我激动。可看了论坛后觉得自己太浅了，和诸位比我简直一无是处。

    我打算卧薪尝胆2年，准备充分再出国。可我应该作什么准备呢？编程？考CCNP？UNIX、LINUX？还是什么别的？需不需要去学个厨师？我是做好充分思想准备的，先要生存下来。BTW，我体格强壮，文明精神野蛮体魄一直是我的座右铭。体力活也能干，应该没问题吧，打工好找吗？

    请了解情况的前辈给指条路，在加拿大找工作需要掌握什么呢？我知道这是个精英云集的地方，象我这么困难的可能没有。不一定是您亲身经历，听说的就成。前辈给我一些忠告吧！您的建议将使我终生受益。谢谢。

    还有，我在国内找家加拿大的公司干干算有加拿大经验吗？请发到我的信箱gystrong@sina.com再次致以我衷心的感谢！！！

    对不起，我的IE出了点问题，可能会贴错板块更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 我听说过一些事情，可能适合你的要求。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001-3-15 {850} (#33332@0)
      1、你的性格如何？如果在学习方面比较懒惰，并且甘心懒惰，那么不要移民。据我所知，尤其是从事电脑业者，必须要坚持学习，不断更新自己的知识，才能不被淘汰。

      2、你现在不会编程没关系。那玩意儿好学。我这学文科的都会写简单的程序，你还在乎什么。你有基础，只要人家叫你干，你肯定能干出个样来。

      3、工作经验十分重要。有工作的人很难像学生似的按学科学习，他们往往以自己的现有工作为方向，不断进修提高。能直接看到效果的学习似乎更现实一些。

      4、别被这些高手吓住。他们刚毕业时也是初级水平，现在，在网上你是看不到他们脸上的皱纹的。十年以后，你也能像他们一样去吓唬刚毕业的大学生。

      5、不要去学厨师，那是从前留学潮时谋生手段。现在，讲究移民，受的苦可少多啦，至少不用打黑工。只要精通电脑，可以请人给你做饭。

      6、多读读英语专业书籍，最好用英语写写笔记（不太容易）。可能会弥补你阅读和写作的不足。

      最后，想明白为什么移民。如果纯粹为享受，可能在国内找个外企更好些。
      • 我现在下定决心出国了，为的是搏一个充满未知的未来！我现在想确定一个方向。从您的帖子看是倾向学编程了。能够再谈谈学习问题吗？先VB，然后VC？还是什么别的。我想利用我的MCSE和CCNA基础，是不是应该看VB和ASP编程？各位有经验的前辈都说说吧，给小弟些建议，非常感谢！ -strong(老粗); 2001-3-15 (#33400@0)
        • Computer, especially programmer, is a practice science (In fact, I am not sure it could be called as science). So, you can learn everything you want, and you can learn very well. -bloor(bloor); 2001-3-15 {1464} (#33417@0)
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛However, you need to do more practice to be talent enough for your future assignment.

          My advice:

          1. Since you have the MCSE certificate (although it's not so useful), you'd better start learning VB, SQL, ASP, or any other skills of MS. But be aware, that VB or VC is just a tool, what you need to learn is the concepts of this industry, and the most popular trends. Make sure you understand what a database is, and what you can do with it. So as to the internet.

          2. Visit Microsoft's web site, there are lots of helpful information there.

          3. Try to find a company where you can do as a programmer. It's really helpful for you.
          I assume that you DO want to be a programmer in the future (image what will happen to you if you stay at the same table, facing the monitor, 8 or 10 hours a day, and 5 or 7 days a week).

          Rollor is correct, you are just a lillter brother here, so be patient.

          BTW, I was a hardware engineer in automatic control field 11 years ago and my major in university is not CS. I make up my mind to become a software engineer (for me, it's the only thing I am interested in). And I have worked with Micro Assemble, C/C++, VB, PB, Delphi, SQL, Oracle, Informix and Sybase, under Win NT and Unix. Now I am working in Java under Linux. And, I can say that I was a good programmer/anlyst in the past, and still as I. What I want to say is, you can be any one if you really want, and only if you really want.

          GOOD LUCK!更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
          • 很多人喜欢把技术作为唯一考虑的问题，其实除非你的技术水平很高或有很好的工作背景，否则对多数人而言语言，性格更重要，千万不要忽视！！ -guest:; 2001-3-15 (#33431@0)
            • 我在这里已经不是一次听到关于一些技术水平一般，但却找到好工作的事了 -guest:; 2001-3-15 (#33433@0)
            • Good Advice -bloor(bloor); 2001-3-15 (#33439@0)

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