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This is the consequence of 网络自由. People tell part of the story, i.e. cas每年死80个孩子. It was 91 in 2007. However, out of these 91 death, how many of the children were in the custody of CAS?

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛How many CAS was responsible? You have to understand what the number means. One of our Rolians gave a very good example, if a baby was downed in her bath room. Police and ambulanace was called. Since this accident involved child, police must call CAS. CAS would then have a report of this child. And tomorrow the baby died in the hospital, then you would see 1 baby died with CAS. Anyone think CAS is responsible for this particular baby? Wait a minute, don't just believe everything you hear from web. Let's look at some formal investigation.

Dr. Bert Lauwers, Deputy Chief Coroner for Investigations drafted a report and you can find such comment; "The involvement of a Children's Aid Society did not appear to be a factor in the majority of child deaths. In cases where there was involvement by a Children's Aid Society, most deaths could not have been foreseen or prevented by the agency. " You can find a summary from the attached link.

The Paediatric Death Review Committee and Deaths Under Five Committee are 2 independent committees; sponsored by Ontario government to investigate every single child's death in Ontario. They are independent from CAS.

You can read the full report from the following link: http://www.oacas.org/pubs/external/PDRCAnnualReport09June1.pdf

And if someone like to go back to read the victim's posting on Rolia. She said "但是昨天那篇CAS每年死80个孩子的贴子导致了我精神崩毁," before she killed herself. Apparentl, somewhere she read the same story that "CAS每年死80个孩子". I hope it was not one of our Rolians who posted that 贴子.

I urge you not to believe every word that you read on web; of course, including mine!更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下拾英 / 心情随笔 / 不该谴责网络自由
    • 基本同意...
      但歪歪指出的肉联围城中之岁寒三友仍有需反省之处...提倡言论自由但不要言词尖刻, 出口伤人....
    • 发生了这么大的事情,偶居然不知道???
    • 不能苟同,辩之无益、、、
      • + 1
    • 你觉得一个个顶着马甲对一个受了重伤的时人时事肆意评论是好事? 那是对他们个人权益的侵犯! 如果家属没有出面, 定有原因, 那些网上好事者们, 能不能谈论些花草鱼虫的事情....?
    • 你的理论,一如既往的部分赞同。总觉得:善待他人,就是善待自己。
    • 谁没有在网上骂过人,谁没有挨骂过。论坛就是一个小社会,把自己放上来,就免不了被人指指点点。大家可着劲地扮演善良,累不?友善只用于朋友之间,例如心坛内部。最怕有人当时一起指点来着,现在出了事,又开始扮演好人来了。。。
      • 以前有一同学,在学校混政治的。往往和我一起发表对政府的不满的时候,突然脸色一变,指责我思想有问题,好像刚才他什么也没说一样,我这个气的~~~这种人,他总是“上进”的,可惜现在想来,还是小人~~~~
    • 他谴责也是自由, 没有该不该的, 是不是....
      • 谴责网络自由的人,往往也是谴责中国网络警察的那些人~~~~
    • 我想她不是谴责网络自由,而是从道德的角度去指摘。法律和道德是两回事。
      • 己所不欲,勿施于人。
        • 其实很难讲。那些指责cas其实是站在死者那边的,但是恰是受谴责的。那些说她是神经病的,有的其实是恶意的,但是却成了好人~~~我不明白应该指责谁?
          • CAS和网友的不妥言论都不是这个悲剧的直接原因,这个事件中,我们要反思的为什么母亲的疾病没有得到治疗? 一个精神疾病患者最需要的是治疗,而不是简单的理解和同情。把言论归为最大杀手,舍本逐末。 -gagstrip(gagstrip); 6.20 02:54 (#5358308@0)
    • 社会版吵得沸沸扬扬的。说实话,cas每年死80个孩子并非谎言。大家都指责cas其实是帮她,怎么就成了迫害她的言论?过度敏感的人,好言好语尚且都能杀他,何况是比较严酷的真相呢?没有必要在道德的角度批判网友。大家不是纯洁的小朋友,过于道德和纯洁,便有装的嫌疑~~~
      • This is the consequence of 网络自由. People tell part of the story, i.e. cas每年死80个孩子. It was 91 in 2007. However, out of these 91 death, how many of the children were in the custody of CAS?
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛How many CAS was responsible? You have to understand what the number means. One of our Rolians gave a very good example, if a baby was downed in her bath room. Police and ambulanace was called. Since this accident involved child, police must call CAS. CAS would then have a report of this child. And tomorrow the baby died in the hospital, then you would see 1 baby died with CAS. Anyone think CAS is responsible for this particular baby? Wait a minute, don't just believe everything you hear from web. Let's look at some formal investigation.

        Dr. Bert Lauwers, Deputy Chief Coroner for Investigations drafted a report and you can find such comment; "The involvement of a Children's Aid Society did not appear to be a factor in the majority of child deaths. In cases where there was involvement by a Children's Aid Society, most deaths could not have been foreseen or prevented by the agency. " You can find a summary from the attached link.

        The Paediatric Death Review Committee and Deaths Under Five Committee are 2 independent committees; sponsored by Ontario government to investigate every single child's death in Ontario. They are independent from CAS.

        You can read the full report from the following link: http://www.oacas.org/pubs/external/PDRCAnnualReport09June1.pdf

        And if someone like to go back to read the victim's posting on Rolia. She said "但是昨天那篇CAS每年死80个孩子的贴子导致了我精神崩毁," before she killed herself. Apparentl, somewhere she read the same story that "CAS每年死80个孩子". I hope it was not one of our Rolians who posted that 贴子.

        I urge you not to believe every word that you read on web; of course, including mine!更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • 一个精神已经崩毁的人的话是不可以作为证词的。仅仅因为这句话来指责网友,就太不负责任。从她自己的话里,既有对cas的痛恨,也有所谓的“信任”。我个人认为,到了语无伦次的地步~~~